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Jules ([personal profile] sohotrightnow) wrote2010-06-24 04:13 pm
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Seriously, what is it about Big Bangs this year?

Two experiences: rape, and getting critical comments about your fanfiction on the Internets. Both of these things have happened to me. One of them happened to me today, on account of writing a ficlet in a few spare minutes and not fact-checking the details of the episode it was based on! Internets, try and guess which of these things is going to be giving me flashbacks in the future. JUST TRY.

Explaining: This morning, I found a message in my DW inbox asking for my thoughts on another problematic Big Bang fic, and only now managed to give it any actual attention owing to running around all day hauling stuff through 100-plus-degree weather and massive humidity, but as a result of said running around hauling stuff, my brain is completely fried. Here is my understanding of how things went down!

[livejournal.com profile] randomepiphany writes another super-problematic Big Bang, this one for bandom and featuring a lot of fail on trans* and gender issues. I didn't get a chance to read the fic; mostly I'd just seen some allusions from around fandom, but fortunately, [livejournal.com profile] sinuous_curve, who is more articulate than I am currently capable of being, did a rundown of the situation and picked out a few particularly offensive things here. For a highlight, see a thread where one of the of the listed betas/fact-checkers talks about how she tried to call the author on sketchy content and was blown off!

I actually was just going to signal-boost that post I linked to above, but then I saw that the author had taken the fic down and instead made a big whiny post where she compared fandom's reaction to her fic to gang-rape, including explicitly acknowledging that people might be offended by that comparison and deciding to use it anyway. And now I am seeing fucking red!

Here, Internets, have a rundown I made for [livejournal.com profile] randomepiphany!
Experiences that are comparable to rape: rape.

Experiences that are not comparable to rape: having people say critical things about your fanfic on the Internets.

THE MOAR YOU KNOW!
helens78: Viggo Mortensen rubs his eye.  Caption: ...WTF? (emote: wtf)

[personal profile] helens78 2010-06-24 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
*points at icon*

..........*tries to come up with something else*

*goes back to pointing at icon*
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[personal profile] storybrooke 2010-06-24 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh.

Ugh ugh ugh.

[personal profile] sarahsaysgo 2010-06-24 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It is so offensive and obnoxious. I actually was spurred to post about it myself, and I never really get involved. (Which I should change) How do people keep acting this way?
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[personal profile] the_future_modernes 2010-06-24 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
WHat the FUCK is wrong with entitled whiny assholes who feel that they must be able to write whateverthe FUCK they want and not get called on their assholery?
gloss: (cosmic dyke)

[personal profile] gloss 2010-06-24 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
...Sorry to anyone 'triggered' by that comparison, but it is precise, and correct.
OH MY FUCKING GOD. FUCK YOU, RANDOMEPIPHANY. How *dare* you??

Dear Jules, I hate the world, I want to go home. /o\
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[personal profile] hot_tramp 2010-06-24 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Scare quotes around people's pain: Classy!
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[personal profile] gloss 2010-06-24 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup, gotta love sneering scare quotes!

DDDD:
mikkeneko: (Default)

[personal profile] mikkeneko 2010-06-25 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Dear randomepiphany: no you aren't, no it's not, and no it's not.
green: (true blood: eye roll)

[personal profile] green 2010-06-24 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
JFC. UGH.
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[personal profile] spintheiryarns 2010-06-24 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate hate hate hate that people cannot tell the difference between "writing a story about misogyny/transphobia/so on" and "writing a misogynistic/transphobic/so on story." HATE
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[personal profile] harborshore 2010-06-25 08:04 am (UTC)(link)
YUP. PRETTY MUCH. Newsflash: if you don't demonstrate or acknowledge that the things you are portraying are problematic in any way, it will look like you're supporting them!
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[personal profile] hot_tramp 2010-06-24 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. "You guys, I'm totally concerned about sexism and transmisogyny! NOW HERE IS SOMETHING SO DEEPLY MISOGYNIST AND DISGUSTING YOU WILL WANT TO VOMIT!"
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[personal profile] impertinence 2010-06-24 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
If I'd known I could graphically hurt someone over the internet so bad it was EXACTLY LIKE RAPE I'd have been selling my patent for the internet punching machine a long time ago.

:|
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[personal profile] ok_itsamandanow 2010-06-25 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
we've disagreed on things in the past, but i could not fucking agree with you more with this comment.

i cannot IAWTC enough.
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[personal profile] rhivolution 2010-06-24 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh. my god.
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[personal profile] cyprinella 2010-06-24 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
JFC.
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[personal profile] tielan 2010-06-24 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, FFS.

One of these things is not like the other one. REALLY.
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[personal profile] pirateygoodness 2010-06-24 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
BUT ARE YOU LIKE, SURE?

SERIOUSLY some people.
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[personal profile] horchata 2010-06-24 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
OH SO THIS IS WHAT INCOHERENT RAGE FEELS LIKE
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[personal profile] ang 2010-06-24 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh. People.
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[personal profile] crossedwires 2010-06-25 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Angry airbison is still angry. :((((

*hugs* if you want them.
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[personal profile] quelle_surprise 2010-06-25 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
the sheer audacity of people who are so clearly showing their ass will never cease to amaze/disgust me.

sink_or_swim: BONES <3333333 (bones hates your bullshit // st: tas)

[personal profile] sink_or_swim 2010-06-25 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Oh what the ACTUAL fuck.

Even as a non-survivor that's the most appallingly offensive comparison I think I have ever seen.

[personal profile] baked_goldfish 2010-06-25 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
I personally enjoyed how randomepiphany went from "Well nobody told me!" to "I wish when my beta [who kept saying "I'm not your beta!"] had talked to me, she'd been more specific!" Nice way to shift the blame onto everyone but her.
sink_or_swim: GO TEAM AWESOME FOR GREAT JUSTICE (TEAM AWESOME // st: tas)

[personal profile] sink_or_swim 2010-06-25 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Right?
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[personal profile] kerri 2010-06-25 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
...linked here from someone on my LJ flist, and oh my god, I cannot believe that she made the comparison between being criticised for her fic to GANG RAPE. It seriously blows my mind and not in a good way.
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[personal profile] moviegrrl 2010-06-25 07:47 am (UTC)(link)
Gah!
This makes me so cross I can't be coherent about it. The original fail frustrates me but THAT COMMENT, DEAR GOD.
What is that? I don't even....

Just the rank stupidity. ARG. The more I think about it...
{Hugs} to you as ever x
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[personal profile] magdalyna 2010-06-25 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
Wait. She's done this sort of bullshit before?

Augh.

Full disclosure: I made a post about this plus the J2 thing and the Gabe thing, and I kinda made some thinking aloud excuses for it, but still didn't condone it.

Why are people stupid?
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[personal profile] magdalyna 2010-06-25 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah. Thanks. Some of the less polite anons have mentioned some of her other (bad)fic.

And I feel bad for moku_youbi to boot. And when I first saw s_c's post, it had like eight comments on it. And then I let out my word babble and I still haven't been able to articulate on my own space how not cool this all is.
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[personal profile] such_heights 2010-06-25 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
(Here via my DW circle)

What on earth is this fuckery? D:
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[personal profile] amazonziti 2010-06-25 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
AUGH that is infuriating. Fandom, what are you doing?

Thank you for signal-boosting fail again. I'm just really sorry it's necessary and that it's for another instance that's hurt you personally.